For those of you who’ve wondered when Patrick Haughey, the owner of Active Thunder Powerboats in Pompano Beach, Fla., will get into the performance center console game, I have a simple answer: When hell freezes over. That sums it up nicely.

It isn’t that Haughey–whose stepped V-hull closed-deck sportboats enjoy a near-fanatical following–hasn’t tried to go the center console route. In fact, you could say he was ahead of his time—maybe a little too far ahead—when Active Thunder had a 31-foot center console in its line from 1999 to 2001. You could also say, especially after tackling the Key West Poker Run in the 31-footer, he couldn’t wait to get rid of it.

“I hated that boat,” said Haughey. “I sold the model to Adrenaline boats. I think they built a couple and then retired it.”

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